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good morning my
mike can tell you to say a toastmasters great pleasure to snow hackman but really and truly is and he's a friend to all of us and said here whether you've ever met him before not because this
one it was people who started to sitting a very early on at right way and started one of our founding fathers
he's a man of many talents
i have had many careers also have a wicked sense of humor but if you ever had to trim panels or turn off lights at tassajara you can thank him for the inventions that up here the candles just right so you could cut them or you didn't have to stand on the tongues can blow
out of the laughs and of anyway
he said i could say anything i wanted to find my suv charges
and here's move
it's customary
well i'm visiting speaker to say how pleased they are how to be or in the company or i'm so joggers people and on one level their room it because
but become experts the instantaneous experts and expert a is still some zone so from out of town
when you're my case i have the additional ability to say a truly pleased am
to return to the place where my practice or began
rebecca reminded me that the dwight way i don't know how many of us seem to to submerge their own has written xander was in the attic and with the back of it i was there were two small windows mobile bigger than this and i sat by those windows because i work i had to i could get out
to
our then our services the run bell rang for service in the morning i was down the stairs are the door to be done a trap for coffee cigarettes in the morning paper and somehow or rather male grabbed me to stay for servers and when i
long time and so would you prove mobile cause it to alter now
the she understood and so i do and i got route the name would show me because my mother those bricks with totally affect me but anything that was emanating from reality
i'm down here i am on offering incense from these roads and i guess where those who makes example of throw saying iraq long enough to be worse than the robes will get wrecked
i just how i managed to find answers look erosion and as practice and still root for twenty six years is totally beyond me
so i would like to
begin by addressing myself to the new people who were here for the first time
the rest of you can listen in or sleep or whatever as you wish
the human mind of course a few read suzuki roshi spoken with the hard to grow up practice and those of you who came here to pay for the first time on are shown as beginner's mind that which we aspire to
the longer we live the hotter it gets because we have so many memories so many things that stand between us in the moment
john sewell at home here because just by coming today you have subtly altered the universe which is known as berkeley sandoval you don't know how you do that we couldn't say how you did it but sometime down the road you may return and room
member this day and know that just by coming here you have entered into our fellowship you rather been willing the first the transmission you'd have been given zazzle instruction so are that is another step into the practice and you're saving a battle just
now you arrive to hear the buddha's words know she was doing that somehow or i have a pipeline to the buddha and a version without words that you can't accept those with the rumors words and they rebuild the truth you might as well put your
because that's not what that means
that ability that wonderful moment to
taste the truth of the to target his words
is every moment in your lie
without the intervention of element like a priest or even like a buddha you have this chance that we had his humor action we're here here here all the time is never apart from the iraq so we're gonna have to go through and the groom a reliable they want to tell the truth that the truth is that something carved and
stone
rather than on a cd disc or anything like that the truth is those were alive as it was ever smoked not how it was a second ago that how that's going to be a second from now rivals the truth of their lives were not as you see that is my i tell you about the food and tasha read we didn't marry someone else tells you what does the truth and you're right
so that introduced to refine the way continually to present ourselves with this situation you're going to take another shower and a few minutes
four hours whatever it is
bad to enter diamond gates now donna was a big red that means so for now just to say true
but it's presented to you in the form for the beach and perhaps we can be jammed and resonant an actual gate that i read through and in kyoto and that and for are flashing and instant loan me some insight into this breath i've been looking forward to going to kyoto
i thought it was a japanese williamsburg where the suspect largest city in japan it has a hard and television tower which even the really for people who are mover i think it's ugly and all the old thing so ancient japan are scattered around in this
say if you look for it
it was august and it was very hot and there was an election and down the wrong side of the street and and accept with a red sash one politician with his entourage and sound system the other side of the struggle and arrived sir and we were raped and stabbed another politician and it was downtown
on a railroad restrict cars and buses come together and i suddenly realized i was losing it but roof of the japanese was just going over me and i
pushed back against a wall and it opened and there was a little temple garden
and here where's the marriage in humorous the silence and somehow or other that went back and forth that was a gate
when you have to sort out five chance that your life you are from time to time to step out a really rotten to some new situation
without making a big fuss about
wow
when you consider
how
the zazen posture which you have been shown and neighbors you to enter down with weights now i enter into your life a big puzzle or begins to emerge for you you cannot see how a pasture read a able to
to move into the depths of your life especially during this painful and office as as andrews for a long period of time some time
when i first started to practice i wonder why should i be interested in an ancient persian arcane activities such as thousand
you know if the border of madame that thousand
samantha and five thousand years old
the rules of people silver blue cross legged meditation have been a card about the that time will take from thousand euros and carvings and k show proof is doing what we're doing right now seventy five thousand years ago
what happens is that rest ancient rome flirting revival as south renews itself as of others each new culture
the buddha had that experience
there was thousand and two this time from the beginning of any recorded history in india it was not nothing moved for him but when he did with it was
so as to spend a moment now to realize if we can
that our time and the buddha's time are probably closer to each other
than any average two boats you could find in history
consider right into it was going through at the time of the buddha before he runs the border with you
i'm was replacing brands money was replaced them batter sinnoh stones were replacing the almost normal and type democratic
lemme drive where the elders and the people got to drive around the truth and decided rep was going to be done about the next day
starvation was rampant
roars room and well that we know them to do we were coming along with the city states that were emerging
and there was torture
i when i came across this year's ago in of canon and i will talk and i was immediately tall matter as are described those treacherous again in public it is that proper to speak like that that he was a rewriting them the there and age and what was the use of
the touch and the of us to maintain the caste system
and then there was the genocide of a shock your people you've heard the sparrow many times
no clue
he in the broader a princess together in the days of when they were randomly tree
twice matched the shop deterrent or twice turn back on the third time listen through the thousands and came in and i'll ever the shock of pupil
genocide
the of monogamy years before he left home the strange remote job and because it was very brilliant he was very good at it added to play your elephant sally use your chariots and so forth
so here is a culture that was being dismantled
donna pod don't should values and are being destroyed and my brother comes face to face with this that was the whereas we first arrived just as the things happening to us today other the reality of our lives
he couldn't stop that
so he said i
when against the current
and it was his discovery
a very simply stated
follow the story
the spirit i locked up
drop them with never set
the barebones buddhist dictionary says this
i like about and teachers that neither read in the bottle phenomenon of existence that outside of them can be found anything that the ultimate sense could be regarded as south existing rover evil entity so or any other a battling substance
whispers the basis of the buddha's teaching
or is it's split my parameter reboot their most saffron exists but no suffering is found the days i but no good at the breeds can be found pieces there but not the person who enters it the path is there but no traveler can be seen as comment
i had of crisis nonsense
well you know that it does leave the world was not invited for thousands of years but it was a soft and random names and ourselves here this morning remember parameters way to like them when we will argue about the forty nine can live with that idea about the for any name again
and we have an actions will have was and what suspicious of have no self
there is where where practice room and gets a brick wall
because it was a drenched debris not american idea or modern i grew i against the base of man and aspirations to maintain yourself at whatever cost
if we won't be able to have at least an intellectual conviction that needs the burger was right
i'm drained but now what he said about more self to be got at notice that a correction there
he didn't say there is no self there was no self to be got at
important distinction to make
what could we bring tourists the experience of zazen from our culture and our time that will enrich and our practice will
i share run
quality of a bad one
this one
we both are fascinated by rob the neurologists and discovering in the laboratory he loves to hang out with these guys
you can't really method
i'm of course just curious that the diorama it was very serious because he has said if buddhism
and science come to a conflict
and science can show with a certain situation is science but said brutalism will have to change
for someone like the dalai lama to bring it to that point i chose
i think very encouraging to pass because it will this openness he was able to embrace anything and everybody that comes along so let's go into my laboratory for a few situations fewer incidents that like to clarify what i'm fumbling for
the earliest experiments done after is awesome had become you know when the rest
there's no electrical and sexual gram of faith roshi was students gravel according to rumors of those as practice and a certain number have killed ordinary people who had never had any meditation that the good was why them up when i remember little card
group stuck on were going through the classroom to route to be recorders
establish a baseline
and then expose everyone to a repetitive and through a total sound fair
hey for forty minutes right
the
the first time the first sound was reached sued by roshni students and people the peak were identical on the castle to
no reference between those people as the time went on
the people at the untrained out tuned out the sound it didn't appear the students saw them had a little spike you in there but the roshan every time a deep run off peak the same room she was hearing that sound for the first time
because it was a sound right before it was almost others for thirty minutes but it's like rats an idea the sound and southwest it and he responded to are totally rad got a lot of people understood in how this is as and businesses water
you know americans are great and we rip problematic people does it work well
and and there was a one man that i'm reported of and unfortunately didn't stay around long enough to finish those experiment but his shirt them a number of those am
and amazon suzuki roshi or not and we were curves and his response and showed that there was a place where it was different after the sound
when i read other people's
the next one i'd like to offer for york amazement is or
some scientists took a camcorder into a every ever remember baby was being born
when took fifteen minutes of sad pictures and run out instead of them what they're looking for as a correlation between a soft spoken by anyone under the umbrella of a room father and mother doctors nurses and browsers for mmm the sound and rapid the baby due at the front of the sound
honest i was sure let's say we found these two every time that cut sound was made the rabbit with twitch every time you opened by mou was signed with the left big toe and curl then trapped at the soundtrack personal to blame and a gibberish admin play with back of the kid made with the core
still patch and wrong the hall of a second time around the same response
that's how you were born
with a walk between a sliminess a emotional response imagine what happens when out of the list
a famous security
an out of a first commercial room
and then you so that was mama and then comes out of the morning to the comic books in the movies maybe was smart but stand for a good job that is so combat get a good job or to look up at the sistine chapel and all about the use and all the time you bring in this
the
not years ago that these guys and bad and was a my mother tongues came from the machines and will show you that as you were listening to me
remain the same responses that you did the first time you how to sound
i'm telling you out with completely broken show you that's happening as you're talking to yourself is awesome
your body is merging a muscular response to austin or including as a food was called and objects than that we make that okay
there's another one and women who these guys are there must be right move
when these moves to experiment they made some very some metal matters to reach them attached to on motors and for control
knobs so that those members can do to started not just blended on this way at the funhouse which you may remember that an infinite number of dispersions the iranian people are them they said sit down to the other for controls right hair
arrange them so you look like new york well as love
the sat down and immediately jumped up and ran out of the roof
other people through up people who tried to stir it after a wow that's sick
the few who state
when can will expand their there's and said please could i look into a rebel in a mirror i don't know available
we are doing that internally
we have for controls five hundred controls for thousand controlled which we continually attempt to bring into alignment so that the south is the we remember it
that's where we have certain game room second close second why of certain has been seven jobs all these things are to constitute an invisible called ask that doesn't change
that the rumors rudolf alumnus that the universe the remove your in new york university
has come up with some members
that have literally
sure that the dalai lama i studied
he has found
and can show you if you went to his laboratory
that forty thousand times a second
twenty thousand times a second
the song center of the brain sends out a way to the cortex was out and the cortex replies on the basis of correlating all of its material were on the founders arranges to emotional body subs
checked with responses and then asked the web now that's up so the on are use a forty thousand forty back and seven women a number thirty five from times a second we have much time by about know that must be very small
but that's time long last
hello u s and those working harmless as result in that time
that takes a bunch of berlin can you imagine for one two thousand times a second that kennedy version too much about this one time but he didn't have back to references and material derived and talked about super speed and i don't know some people can remember true or speed
he used the motion picture camera as a example twenty four times a second a still picture was flashed on the screen and ye yang baik with inference that was moving and establishment slow things down when you can work through
the space between and run into actual and reality so here are the stakes have been raised
forty thousand times a second can come and we will and if you were blessed next time we'll read the hearts of the made the heart sutra
about the dam is bring empty
you might
set of connect the possibility of connecting got the heart sutra said and brought to dr linnaeus sets were empty a lotta empty our own room where there's nothing there
except roof flashing of these diamonds which back and themselves are are nothing
ah now we might say well now you are getting in pretty deep here boy
now why don't you check in with the brunette and soon read the buddha says about this
no longer hold strap of loomis on the buddha own term agreement
that the limbless says will reagan life as a dream
and buddha says read your mind and gleaming mind of the same
so we're living in dream
no boy substantial
it's different than when we're asleep but the mechanism is the same thing at now we're that process and to image and input from and the fences so remind can just ran free and put together all of these home
the things that we see in our dreams
now that's very interesting
what has a plan to do with the and with a buddha trump
he said
the nature of suffering and the endless suffering is all that i teach
it's all all this other stuff that's grown up around like i go around a call the central position the center of better that he made was the nature of suffering and how to ended
suzuki roshi as many of you know died and for cancer death
he didn't seven
when do we found out that instead of gallstones he had cancer he announced i had to be made in buddhism and we put on i met a raucous a rhythm name sometimes when we put on a prescribes over remember name he says i have a new name mr cancer
he did not keep it away
like this
so when you trying that and honest researcher like back to is kinda news and i would
so read the buddha said twenty five hundred years ago i saw versus great encouragement or we we're not there are rather do any from retribution versus staff are a contribution you somewhere instead of a restroom and adam
zen buddhism as travels from one country to another you find it takes a couple hundred years before it loses its accent and become so acclimated into the culture and jams or a of a tuple and they had great difficulty rooms and showers
thousands of grains of sand in the ganges and this was astronomical numbers after i remember the people in england and that up the with brazil concept if they had minds and with read some other brought in china where back is them into their gods and their minds
simultaneously when they realize that they've been studying thousand for many years before buddhism came along and they could understand
this
and you should our ten days in from adobe don't remember that are much more clearer never at it from a room besides and as i a dial position comes to chat to japan and jantar which has none of our books which has no ceremony which has nothing but the actual exp
variance drop the center of gravity band of our doesn't so now it's kind of this country and ah out on a limb government can be rad much rather fair to say where we will bring him back
do you see the hubble pictures the tone suggesting that fantastic picture the birth of the stars that's us and with proton in iraq a magnificent bay came into existence with demi proton in her body we are identical to the universe
when i removed from it we are part of it
and say i'm i'm jim said and with assassin and just record hat and workers at the moment enjoying rap and when all of these things and this gives us a sense i think of great
for me and
buddhism is not strange at all
natural as your breath
so i'm kat i wish i were years younger so that i could get in to replace it may be bumped into the dalai lama sunday and a neurological convention in talk about this for them because of bush was how i was raised when i will sam
let's see i was born on his by moon that was conceived and will of the red and assassination of archduke say level
i was born as the time read
einstein's first
special food and relativity and was transmitted through the lines of the battle of the first read war and will stand by adding to and other people in the conference in london when i was fourteen the copenhagen conference and atomics was them when i was seventeen i studied quantum sure
asics and when i was twenty six i came this close
to the atomic pile in chicago really a university a football field there was a wrong that i rather have going to work and just the other side sandler wrong was refreshed pile that's how come
so
coming from that world and to the road and resemble into the red seem to was from very difficult
for many years because i've i've found aliens as mattress because of japanese script aspects and will mess was the wrappings and that's not britain difficulty life was good i accept
and what areas asked to accept
namely that from the beginning of the six the first chinese japanese ancestry said that would be grown from the beginning that of is
the two months were discussing
this question
the first man says six chinese as as from the beginning that as thing is and i say that's why we make it
you say and yesterday
so that's where we have to pick it
why do you make that
can make up some milk and thirty seven
that is well we make up
and
and he gets a good place to start i understand you have questions and answers here and met some someplace else
does anyone want to look better with situation and
see that you addressed
this is question is often asked me why somebody sat head you can explain to someone has changed
we home
out by saying
a bodhisattva is a boy scout and get no merit badges
the i'm an old man and most was reuben wary about that was gonna strength
no object that's a good question or
because
when we bow
to all i good ancestors and whenever from the presented to us they are just mirrors in which we hope to see ourselves
we
ah
when will become thirty disciples
for an instant
i
whereas aspects of our which week
deeply cherish and would like to pass on to other people we the blue acid as mountains where i'm sure it's quite frequently and the parameters are not something that may us they are expressed internal expressions of rattling most want for rc
sounds and when we were able to bring them up for ourselves then other people can respond to them and at that moment be
act as a that
yeah
the making of a construct of
reality that's where my works
as to do that
i can't stop it like hand you can do it does not not possible
so where wiping his is where does
such a a notion of a very sad
like that i like that
get fifty
don't look a gift horse in mouth
it's not said facetiously i'm sorry that's the only thing i could

yeah well i'm
if if there really isn't anything at all of a pick everything up
sometimes it seems to me that it's actually the other way around that and the question is why is there something rather than nothing
i can say that way and about the staff on the device is just something that we make up it's great hubris
we made are responsible for
making up everything i in or
mother
hayden say principle of merlin buddhism that we don't know anything except our ideas of it so if on that level i would so restroom don't and everything up
on
the difficulty in it's not that we do that
but the will take it for you we identify that which means me about as boom
that's the bishop call him after major that but then the economy ourselves into believing that with has substance that what has cut murder that it has in the komodo ever been language reality that's where the arrogance and was route it so difficult own
mean i could do if this was a therapy session i could recount a number of its variances on my life where i was suddenly
array of the fact that what i had made up did not exists in the way i wanted it to
and it was devastating because what rockers devastating and was devastated was that one who made when i was now exposed as a five and believe is the very very difficult thing ever hearing as soon as we establish any kind of things internal or external
and the road i begins to creak it begins to grind
all these things are said justice and was a teacher went to tell me that most of my life was spent driver fine metaphors
but soon as you make a metaphor that has the certain good quality to read it immediately attracts all kinds of other things rather than lose laws and this is a metaphor making things episode is is a metaphor but how else are we going to to transmit the possibility that i launched
was different than what we have thought all along
and zazen vessel for you when we don't need to have any will tell you about as as and because it's yours you still have you been watching you see it happening
it's why when we go the or a teacher he helps us serve notice this noticed the making up them the fall in their way of making up and doing it all over again
be nice if there was a to somebody once said the time will come when they will have all these lenses and that those things neighborhood but with sakhalin to enlightenment
and a supercilious ramping people and i can't wait for that so i'm just sad
now i'm getting any are days that it's different to acknowledge that i may have everything that that had somebody access to to me
it's not so good for me and said you're just making it happen
the like you're stepping on my town somebody's system and i say that's your just created
his address as comic book guy buddhism of course will step on people's toes of course will crash our cars into somebody else's cars rarely i'm talking about his lap in not in that gross level
because but i think it will come out of this way because we moved forever
read their fans are very careful what we make and i think this is where our practice comes in that careful attention to the most minute thing that suzuki roshi and mill other people have urged on to do one thing totally is an expression of the fact that us we make it all up and i am making a
up as best i can
if it doesn't work for right but you at least tried in everything you every breath maybe the this is not something that just happens it was endo you know

that's wondering what he has been gracious
western psychology actually get yourself to your actions how having work or don't work
well i didn't find her in the audience
the last night
if you sound relax i came here at two am recommendation version of a therapist
blanche and i am may twenty five years into our marriage we have and breadth of coverage rented this therapist and that marriage chance to read and became to this doctor called it was an anthropologist at uc berkeley
mescaline and dropped acid and suddenly realized the finally hebrew more about ready to especially to be teaching but i do i really started out dropped his professional became the therapist who was dying of lymphatic cancer so he was in a hurry took him six weeks of classical sarah who took you in on a mess
round trip and that was it
hi i'm running back
i'm no master britain on by our and i wouldn't and drugs because my kids are up in the ave maybe selling the stuff
the removed to have a mess i was called i was tired and as just stuck for years
as a
so instead add to when he says melvin said emerald a religious discipline
there's were done to the harley women are seen as grim as a rural in town
when
and i don't recommend it
ha that's the hard and
seven about amanda christian right so i'm told that story many times and got back to grown man who are rather than back to cause drama here and that it had got to credible that he was training him to do the the red and the town he so you go back the room and tell them this story went back to cold and matter will discuss and well
we should recommend for back to gossip when i moved the lungs and said but such a stubborn cent of a bridge
cheech and chong
project we've had a blast with much of that level too so i am doing very well as smile or broadening my android phone instantly by loving kindness thus increasing right so they added tokes me sad monday and it
those movies that you've been practicing psychotherapy rules were acceptable as well as you travel and
that's true but with the to die for
so i said all right i will so i tried buddhism and trying something for me and i'm reading about it i'm studying about it that was very smart move over we had monk damages are
and since i'm going to post student and had training in tell them stories with my profession my first was so talk ride and i mean i'm having the palmer my head around the fair either way you want so next time
where she asked me where i'm going to talk about lou and as a well not so much a total last time they don't tell him out that i would like to tell this dominant tell him addictive last time he said no he said that first talk just lets people know how you've got to sit in the first seat but i don't have much children must have stuck out because
he said about that's okay you move ahead monk you can talk about anything you like but stop writing i remember i was prepared to read a book about my zen experience as a is that it was and arabia with no buddhist jargon or anything in it
i have never been so angry in my life i was consumed with egg
but i wasn't i mean that roshi strangely enough i rocked to the xander i walked past the santa i walked out the brain that had on new silly clothes plastic slippers nobody i was funny i got up as far as the first covered than idea
and for those kids are not going and realize why the headman didn't show up for the second lecture time came right back but i was free at that time and wrap their anger was not with russian the animals with myself that have that kind of the wrong and or
to book
all my life i've been wanting to read a book he cut me free of the moon to read a book and i was gone so what we've got through and is something that someone who still has been said before we can do better by we gotta be somebody
and i think that's where
to the eventually dry and windless country and our practice for a moment
i'm the same grapple were troubled people who have trouble separate individual selves and out of that we come to this fact as movie the difficult than i did that it was pain and suffering that movement of the therapist and but fortunate down congress
when were having can you imagine that the same you should have a religious discipline that was pretty far as was
but i had on event for a couple of years and there was another senior monk i banned at tassajara and who asked me running brewing here in the last of classical an an hadn't read on to those and but that's a classic ago statement and as an eye i'm here to become a better father and and
loving husband he's a moment and not
is you hear that find out will be wrong
and that finding out who i rise
was awful
because i had to look at myself as i really work
and the practice does the can be continually to matlab leadville i never let go of anything understanding sentiment but i to admit
only five events and other people to sue but i am not what i have met up
right i am i'm not gonna tell you because i don't know
the divers are rather than just a certain level of suffering
maybe there'll be has to be done frustrated we tell people i'm sure it happens here in berkeley before we continue to practice that's what you need some therapy right where people who have gone through therapy there's not enough and will come to us and me
the soon grow a little bit that stick
which is you walking the with traditional
the was down a job
hi
the i say
on
we shouldn't you take one more question well i don't care you can play i can do this survey
this and we can that has only a little question how are you
are you
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